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Political Parallels In Breaking Down The Family Unit

Read from the bottom up for the chronological thread discussion that happened here.

Nice analysis Mark. To add my two cents, which I hope doesn’t muddle the discussion:
 
In the 1917 Revolution, a bunch of middle and lower class thugs overthrew (and murdered) the ruling class. They replaced the ruling ideology and morality (basically capitalistic and Christian) with their own godless communism. With no understanding of human nature, and no economic sense, and lacking any corporate experience, and despite much help initially from the US, the Soviet experiment ultimately failed in our lifetimes.
 
The American revolution of the twentieth century could more accurately be called an evolution. Basically, under President Roosevelt, the ruling, capitalist elite starting controlling the people by taking as much as possible from the middle class without causing a revolution, and giving as much of this as necessary to the lower class to prevent a revolution. With their deft capitalistic and management experience, they have so far managed to keep things in balance and to provide enough material wealth to prevent a revolution.
 
At the same time, our constitutional, republican form of government has become almost unrecognizable. While the American elite have always controlled the government, they do so now without the minimal democratic input of past ages. The judges of their appointment make the decisions they desire, and when the people complain they pretend the decisions are out of their hands.
 
Corresponding to this national-socialistic evolution in government, the elite’s morality and ideology has also undergone an evolution. The official position of the ruling elite has gone from nominally Christian and paternalistic to pagan/atheist and maternalistic. The one group that epitomizes this new morality is the National Organization of (Lesbian) Women.
 
Which brings me to my first point: There is much similarity between the failed communist system and the modern American system. Women are encouraged to work to increase the tax base and thus government control. Children are placed in daycare and government schools to decrease the strength of the family and increase the government’s power. Homosexuality, free sex and deviation are encouraged to distract the people and destroy their families. Divorce is encouraged to put greater and greater percentages of the population under direct government control without any due process of law. American men and boys are intentionally being destroyed by our nanny state which favors women. As Mark says, the people responsible for this aren’t communists, but many of the results sure look the same.
 
The good news is that if you understand the problem, you should be able to find a solution. If you think we live in a democracy and can solve this problem by merely writing your congressman, you probably don’t belong on this list. But if you want to face reality, and if you understand what we are up against, you might find that our opponents are a lot more vulnerable than they appear.
 
For starts, a good percentage, maybe a majority, of the elite are uncomfortable with the extreme feminist morality. For now they go along because their main interest is their fortunes, and they don’t want to risk civil war over a few (million) aborted babies or fatherless kids. But they understand that this morality is not being accepted by the American population. I think at the first sign of serious revolution, they will cave in and toss the feminists to the wolves. This revolution has begun, and we will not stop until we peaceably restore the Constitution and the role of fathers and families in American society.
 
Mike O

On Mon, 20 Jun 2005 10:56:43 -0400 Mark Charalambous <brontis@THECIA.NET> writes:

Rebuttal

Readers of this list and similar Fathers Rights lists are by now familiar with posts that seek to place what I have coined the “War on Fatherhood” in some kind of historical and ideological context. [In fact, I myself do this…]

One of these worldviews is that the War on Fatherhood has its roots in Marxist-Leninism/communism.  Those that have been around for many years have doubtless seen such claims numerous times.

The post I am responding to here is one example.

I am going to take the time to rebut this particular example.  I am not a student of early 20th century in any real sense of the word. I say this because I admit at the outset that my analysis might perhaps be wrong. And let me also state up front my basic thesis, which is this: the War on Fatherhood is not a part of a communist plot.  It may have been in the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, but those executing the War on Fatherhood in the west do not have as their ulterior and final motive the overthrow of evil capitalism to be replaced with dawning of a new-age communist utopia.  In my opinion, which I won’t fully elaborate on here, is much simpler. The purpose of this writing is to debunk the belief and claim that what lies behind the War on Fatherhood is Marxist-Leninist communism.

The web page that is referenced is included below, completely. The link is: http://www.gillistriplett.com/rel101/articles/destruction.html


First I will summarize the page, breaking it down into logical sections, adding a little commentary as I go. Then I will offer a summary analysis of the entire content.

Page Breakdown

The opening section is a quasi-religious call to arms alerting the reader to an insidious threat to overthrow the family as the basic unit of society. The author makes numerous references to (the Judeo-Christian) God.  The thesis is established that the moral chaos that presently ensues is in fact a conspiracy.


The next section includes an often-repeated quote from Lenin:

“Destroy the family and you destroy society." [1]

The corresponding footnote reads as follows:

## Begin quote

“[1] Lenin merely repeated what Socrates had said and what Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx put into words. Lenin set out to do just that, hoping that a new society -- with the State as the ultimate father -- could be constructed. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, we have seen the consequences of the experiment.”

## End quote

I am now curious about this quote, and perhaps will track it down.  I have no reason to doubt its authenticity, but I would like to see the full context. However, the source of the actual quote is not listed in the footnote!  [Note to self: Google this quote and try to find the full writing is was drawn from.]

The next section includes the text of an article from the July, 1926 issue of the Atlantic Monthly, “The Russian effort to abolish marriage.”  Wild claims are made as to events in everyday life in Russia following a plan ostensibly put in place to destroy the family.  Given the date of the article and the political climate in the U.S. at the time, it would be imprudent to simply accept on faith the claims made in this article. As I said, I’m not an ardent student of early 20th century history, so perhaps everything is factually true, but I am skeptical. 

Nonetheless, I can accept the claims as essentially describing a true situation, with perhaps some embellishments.  The goal here was the remaking of Russian society along an entirely new design.  The resulting chaos described here is certainly not unbelievable.

The next section of the page begins with this listing of the plans of the Russian conspiracy to destroy marriage and family:

## Begin quote

“Here’s how the scheme to destroy the family is mapped out:

  • Eliminate the sacredness of the marriage covenant from the minds of the masses. Make them believe marriage is outdated and blasé

  • Inspire hatred against the family unit, manhood and fatherhood

  • Institute no-fault divorce and encourage serial divorces

  • Incite rampant promiscuity, fornication and adultery

  • Make having illegitimate children become a common practice

  • Convince society that a child in the womb is not a human being

  • Provoke women to have abortions without regard to God or their consciences

  • Make true love seem like cheap amusement

  • Stimulate the people to confuse sex with the love

  • Create an environment that encourages unwed single motherhood

  • Inspire men to disrespect, dishonor and abuse women

  • Design laws that motivate women to commit paternity fraud

  • Incite homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual immorality and perversion

  • Influence men to effortlessly abandon children they sire

  • Most importantly, provoke a fierce relentless gender war “

## End quote

Once again, I could accept this as being essentially true, with perhaps some embellishments (or perhaps, with no embellishments).  Again, it is no secret that Lenin and the Bolsheviks were trying to completely re-order society along statist lines.

The next section is where Triplett makes an illogical leap. The section begins with this preamble and heading:

## Begin quote

“As you have read, what happened in 1926 was no accident and neither what is happening in our time. The high divorce rate, the mass number of unwed mothers, the rage against fatherhood, the gender war and the overt war against marriage - are all well planned attacks. Brace yourself and read how certain Americans, like their Russian counterparts, are also hell-bent on dismantling and exterminating the family.

The Planned Destruction Of The Family “

## End quote

What follows is 14 quotes.  The quotes all speak to the destruction of the family, but to patriarchy in particular. Most of us have seen these quotes before.  I put them up on our web site years ago under the banner “Feminist Hate Speech… Know your enemy” etc. etc.

In fact, it is _possible_ that some of the authors of these quotes may indeed have been “card carrying” communists, but they all share something else in common that marks them far more clearly than any suspected political affiliation with communism: they are all quotes from feminists speaking about the goals of feminism.

All that are directly attributed are attributed to women. Two are attributed to “The Declaration of Feminism, (1971).”

Are we dealing with a movement here, today, that seeks as it ultimate aim workers control of factories and the triumph of the lumpen proletariat?  You can believe that if you wish. I believe the evidence is clear. Why not take these people at their word? They hate men.

The final section again reverts to biblical riffs to persuade the reader how to fight this conspiracy.  I make no comments on religious beliefs.

Thus ends my summary of what this page contains. Now my opinions on it.

I accept that part of the Marxist-Leninist communist revolution relied upon a removal of the biological, patriarchal family unit as the cornerstone of society. However, the ideological war between capitalism and communism is over. They lost. We won.

Sure, there are holdouts here and there, but no one with their feet on the ground actually believes a resurgence of communism is going to eventually prevail. Communism now resides in the ash heap of history.

However, there is no doubt among us that the War on Fatherhood, the desire to replace the biological (patriarchal or not) family unit with a new unit, is proceeding along very well thanks to people like Margaret Marshall, the feminists, etc.  This is part of our daily experience. It’s a fact, and anyone who doesn’t believe it really shouldn’t even be bothering to participate in these discussions.

It is my thesis that if one seeks to find a map to fit this territory – recognizing that the map is NOT the territory nor will it ever be in any context – then the map that is the closest fit is that it is the feminist movement that took hold in earnest in the 1970s that is the motive force for the War on Fatherhood.

As I said earlier, the point of this writing is not to expound on my theory, which I have articulated many, many times over the years (for the most part falling upon deaf ears…), but rather to challenge the view held by some in the Fathers Rights movement that this all part of a communist plot.

Look at the quotes the author uses. None of them are explicitly communist inspired. All of them are feminist, and all of them are direct attacks on the male sex.  Why are we seeking conspiratorial ulterior motives in these quotes? Why should we not take these feminists at their word?

End.

Mark Charalambous

---------------------------------------------

## Begin included article:

http://www.gillistriplett.com/rel101/articles/destruction.html

The Planned Destruction Of The Family

Wake up people! Wake up pastors! Wake up men and women of God and sound the alarm! There is a hostile attack against the family and against the institution of marriage.

The things we are facing to today, the high divorce rate; the rash number of unwed single mothers; the hoards of illegitimate children; homosexuality and lesbianism, sexual perversion and the alarming high number of abortions is not some new phenomenon. It is an ingenious plot that has been in force for decades… designed to annihilate the family structure. You are about to read written proof of this clandestine conspiracy. You’ll learn about the people behind it and their fierce unwavering mission to eradicate the family. Warning: if you are easily offended: DO NOT read any further! This critical message is not for the faint at heart!

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By Gillis Triplett

Most men and women are clueless when it comes to understanding the malicious forces arrayed against the family and marriage. They simply cannot comprehend how hell-bent some men and women are on destroying the family. Read the chilling words of Communist Lenin…

“Destroy the family and you destroy society." [1]

You need to know that Lenin had a devious plan to carryout his sinister plot and he wasn’t alone! You’ll read about his cohorts in a moment. Right now I need you to see the direct parallels of our current state of affairs to the Marxist Communism plot to eradicate the family, noted in the 1926 July issue of the Atlantic Monthly. Please read this document slowly and carefully.

The Russian Effort To Abolish Marriage

When the Bolsheviks came into power in 1917 they regarded the family, like every other "bourgeois" institution, with fierce hatred, and set out with a will to destroy it. "To clear the family out of the accumulated dust of the ages we had to give it a good shakeup, and we did," declared Madame Smidovich, a leading Communist and active participant in the recent discussion.

So one of the first decrees of the Soviet Government abolished the term "illegitimate children." This was done simply by equalizing the legal status of all children, whether born in wedlock or out of it, and now the Soviet Government boasts that Russia is the only country where there are no illegitimate children. The father of a child is forced to contribute to its support, usually paying the mother a third of his salary...

At the same time a law was passed which made divorce a matter of a few minutes, to be obtained at the request of either partner in a marriage. Chaos was the result. Men took to changing wives with the same zest which they displayed in the consumption of the recently restored forty-per-cent vodka.

"Some men have twenty wives, living a week with one, a month with another," asserted an indignant woman delegate during the sessions of the Tzik. "They have children with all of them, and these children are thrown on the street for lack of support!"

(There are three hundred thousand… shelterless children in Russia to-day, who are literally turned out on the streets. They are one of the greatest social dangers of the present time, because they are developing into professional criminals.

More than half of them are drug addicts and sex perverts.

It is claimed by many Communists that the break-up of the family is responsible for a large percentage of these children.)

The peasant villages have perhaps suffered most from this revolution in sex relations. An epidemic of marriages and divorces broke out in the country districts.

[Marriage became a game where it] was not… unusual… for a boy of twenty to have had three or four wives, or for a girl of the same age to have had three or four abortions. [T]he peasants… bitterly complained: 'Abortions cover our villages with shame. Formerly we did not even hear of them.'

Many women… found marriage and childbearing a profitable occupation. They formed connections ( sexual) with the sons of well-to-do peasants and then blackmailed the father for the support of the children. In some cases peasants have been obliged to sell [everything] in order to settle such… claims. The law has created still more confusion because… women can claim support for children born many years ago.

During the winter of 1924-1925 some of the older Communists accused the younger generation… of indulging… in loose connections; they blame the girl students for practising frequent abortions… Russian women students… [noted] that love was almost the only cheap amusement left to them and demanded that they be given… free abortions that factory women enjoy… Both in the villages and in the cities the problem of the unmarried mother has become very acute and provides a severe and annoying test of Communist theories.

…Another new point was that wife and husband would have an equal right to claim support from the other… The woman would have the right to demand support for her child even if she lived with several men during the period of conception; but, in contrast to previous practice, she or the court would choose one man who would be held responsible for the support. Commissar Kursky seemed especially proud of this point because it differed so much from the 'burgeois customs' of Europe and America.

Another speaker objected to the proposed law on the ground that some women would take advantage of its liberal provisions to form connections with wealthy men and then blackmail them for alimony.[2]

[1] Lenin merely repeated what Socrates had said and what Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx put into words. Lenin set out to do just that, hoping that a new society -- with the State as the ultimate father -- could be constructed. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, we have seen the consequences of the experiment.

[2] The Atlantic Monthly; July 1926; The Russian Effort to Abolish Marriage; Volume 138, No. 1; page 108-114. You can read the document in its entirety by clicking here.

Here’s how the scheme to destroy the family is mapped out:

  • Eliminate the sacredness of the marriage covenant from the minds of the masses. Make them believe marriage is outdated and blasé

  • Inspire hatred against the family unit, manhood and fatherhood

  • Institute no-fault divorce and encourage serial divorces

  • Incite rampant promiscuity, fornication and adultery

  • Make having illegitimate children become a common practice

  • Convince society that a child in the womb is not a human being

  • Provoke women to have abortions without regard to God or their consciences

  • Make true love seem like cheap amusement

  • Stimulate the people to confuse sex with the love

  • Create an environment that encourages unwed single motherhood

  • Inspire men to disrespect, dishonor and abuse women

  • Design laws that motivate women to commit paternity fraud

  • Incite homosexuality, lesbianism, sexual immorality and perversion

  • Influence men to effortlessly abandon children they sire

  • Most importantly, provoke a fierce relentless gender war

As you have read, what happened in 1926 was no accident and neither what is happening in our time. The high divorce rate, the mass number of unwed mothers, the rage against fatherhood, the gender war and the overt war against marriage - are all well planned attacks. Brace yourself and read how certain Americans, like their Russian counterparts, are also hell-bent on dismantling and exterminating the family.

The Planned Destruction Of The Family

The nuclear family must be destroyed , and people must find better ways of living together. ... Whatever it’s ultimate meaning, the break-up of families now is an objectively revolutionary process. ... "Families have supported oppression by separating people into small, isolated units, unable to join together to fight for common interests. ... — Functions of the Family, Linda Gordon, WOMEN: A Journal of Liberation, Fall, 1969.  

"By the year 2000 we will, I hope, raise our children to believe in human potential, not God" — Gloria Steinem, editor of 'MS' magazine.

"We can't destroy the inequities between men and women until we destroy marriage. " -- [Robin Morgan, "Sisterhood Is Powerful," (ed), 1970, p. 537]

“The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members is to kill it"  — Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood, in Women and the New Rage, p.67

"Marriage has existed for the benefit of men; and has been a legally sanctioned method of control over women... We must work to destroy it. The end of the institution of marriage is a necessary condition for the liberation of women.  Therefore it is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men." The Declaration of Feminism , November 1971

"Only when manhood is dead - and it will perish when ravaged femininity no longer sustains it - only then will we know what it is to be free." -- [Andrea Dworkin. "The Root Cause," speech, 26 Sept. 1975, at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, Cambridge (published in Our Blood, ch. 9, 1976).]

"The care of children ...is infinitely better left to the best trained practitioners of both sexes who have chosen it as a vocation...[This] would further undermine family structure while contributing to the freedom of women." — Kate Millet, Sexual Politics 178-179  

"In order to raise children with equality, we must take them away from families and communally raise them."    -- Dr. Mary Jo Bane, feminist and assistant professor of education at Wellesley College and associate director of the school's Center for Research on Woman

"Who cares how men feel or what they do or whether they suffer? They have had over 2000 years to dominate and made a complete hash of it. Now it is our turn. My only comment to men is, if you don't like it, bad luck - and if you get in my way I'll run you down." — Letter to the Editor: Women's Turn to Dominate, Signed: Liberated Women, Boronia; Herald-Sun, Melbourne, Australia, February 9, 1996

"Life in this society being, at best, an utter bore and no aspect of society being at all relevant to women, there remains to civic-minded, responsible, thrill-seeking females only to overthrow the government, eliminate the money system, institute complete automation, and destroy the male sex." — Valerie Solana, SCUM Manifesto (Society for Cutting Up Men.)  

"How will the family unit be destroyed? ... the demand alone will throw the whole ideology of the family into question, so that women can begin establishing a community of work with each other and we can fight collectively.  Women will feel freer to leave their husbands and become economically independent, either through a job or welfare."Female Liberation , by Roxanne Dunbar.

"I feel that 'man-hating' is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them."  — Robin Morgan, (editor of MS magazine)

“…[I]t is important for us to encourage women to leave their husbands and not to live individually with men... All of history must be re-written in terms of oppression of women. We must go back to ancient female religions like witchcraft" — The Declaration of Feminism , November 1971.

"God is going to change. We women... will change the world so much that He won't fit anymore." — Naomi Goldenberg, Changing of the Gods: Feminism and the End of Traditional Religions (Quoted at beginning of From Father God to Mother Earth)

I pray that you comprehended what your eyes just read. This attack against the family, against the institution of marriage and against God is not a game! As you have learned, these men and women are serious about abolishing the family unit. They will stop at nothing to eradicate God, morals, marriage, manhood, womanhood, fatherhood, motherhood and husbandhood from our minds and hearts.

Their mission is to persuade the masses to engage in atheism, misogyny, misandry, domestic violence, child abandonment, child support schemes and traps, paternity fraud, serial divorces, serial abortions, sexual perversion, homosexuality and lesbianism.

What must we do to turn the tide? We the people must:

  • Follow the biblical instructions recorded in II Chronicles 7:14

  • Cry loud and spare not! We must expose their plot, (Isaiah 58:1)

  • When these individuals and organizations attempt to pass laws subversive to the family and marriage, we must move swiftly to repeal and put those laws down, (See Daniel 7:25)

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http://www.gillistriplett.com/rel101/articles/destruction.html

“Destroy the family and you destroy society." - Lenin

 Lenin merely repeated what Socrates had said and what Friedrich Engels and Karl Marx put into words. Lenin set out to do just that, hoping that a new society -- with the State as the ultimate father -- could be constructed. With the collapse of the Soviet Union, we have seen the consequences of the experiment.
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